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South Windsor Town Council Cuts Down Scope of Proposed Recreation Complex

A private investor is in negotiations to build the hockey rink(s), according to Town Manager Matthew Galligan.

Though no final decisions have been made, the South Windsor Town Council on Monday moved closer to defining what exactly it is willing to explore with regard to a possible recreation complex.

Specifically, the council appears to have abandoned a publicly financed recreation complex that includes one or two hockey rinks.


“The hockey rink is off the table right now. Done,” Deputy Mayor Gary Bazzano said at one point during the sometimes contentious meeting.

Bazzano’s comments followed a lengthy discussion on what, if anything, individual councilors would support concerning a recreation complex, which was initially proposed as a $10.5 million project to be constructed at Evergreen Walk. The proposal called for two ice skating rinks, a pool and recreation offices.

But the project has come under fire for a number of reasons, not least of which is that the town has a privately owned hockey rink in the South Windsor Arena.

Town councilors Jan Snyder and Keith Yagaloff both said that they would not support having taxpayer dollars spent on constructing anything that would be in competition with an existing business in town.

But Town Manager Matthew Galligan noted to the council, an unnamed private developer is in negotiations with the landowner at Evergreen Walk about possibly taking over the hockey rink portion of the project.

“I met with them; they are interested in doing a private deal,” Galligan said of the developer.

In light of that development, Galligan said that it makes sense to construct a recreation complex that includes a pool and possibly a gymnasium away from Evergeen Walk. Galligan said that LA Fitness has a provision in its lease that bars the construction of a competing pool and a gymnasium - things that the business offers - at Evergeen Walk.

What’s more, Galligan said that the private developer would not be interested in having the town partner with it because the pool portion of that project would slow the process down.

“If so, then we might as well do that on our own then,” Galligan said.

But even then, there appeared to be mixed support, at least right now, for building a recreation complex - sans rinks - on town-owned land.

Much of the opposition comes from the economic realities that the town is staring down for the 2013-14 budget.

Mayor Tom Delnicki said that the town would have its first payment - about $1.2 million - for the sewage treatment plant, along with a $600,000 increase to the town’s self-funded insurance plan. The school district also has several new or increased expenditures that figure to be drivers in 2013-14, including all-day kindergarten, a spike in special education costs and salary rises for teachers and administrators that were approved by the school board in the collective bargaining process.

What’s more, as state Rep. Bill Aman pointed out earlier in the meeting, in light of the deficit facing Connecticut this year, the amount of aid from the state that the town will receive figures to be at least slightly less than what South Windsor received last year.

Yagaloff also said out that the grand list has not grown the last few years and the town has revaluation going on this year.

Yagaloff said that while he is interested taking advantage of record-low interest rates, he believed those rates should be used to address the town’s priorities. While the recreation project is important, Yagaloff said, he also wanted to be careful not to make any promises to the public that something would be done any time soon.

“This is the worst economic downturn that we’ve had in a long time,” he said.

Regardless, the use of a 63-20 corporation still enjoys support from at least some town councilors for the use of future town projects, which may or may not include the recreation complex.

Councilor Cindy Beaulieu said that she favors keeping the town's options open for the 63-20 corporation - which includes the creation of a not-for-profit entity to construct a project that the town would lease back from that company for a period of time - as a financing tool.

Tired of Talking About It


And regardless of how it’s is defined - either with or without skating rinks - several members of the council and the public said that they have grown weary of the hours of discussions that have been devoted to the proposed project.

“This has taken up a substantial amount of time,” Delnicki said. “It’s derailing an existing committee from doing [its] work on the community center.”

Delnicki was referring to a subcommittee that was formed over the summer to look into what an expenditure of $1.5 million would bring in terms of renovating the Charles N. Enes Community Center. The subcommittee has not held any discussions since the recreation complex was introduced before the council on October.

Council Ed Havens said that he was tired of discussing the project.

“Let’s get it over with,” he said. “We’ve wasted enough time [on this].”

During public comment, resident Michael Sullivan said that the council had other pressing matters to discuss.

“I’m really amazed that’s the top priority,” Sullivan said. “There’s so many topics the town needs to deal with.”

Another resident, John Bassilakas said that given the shortfalls at the state level that figure to impact the municipal budget, he wasn’t sure that it was the best time to talk about a cost sharing arrangement or a new expenditure like the recreation complex.

But others defended the project.

Resident Bob Feher, who is also the president of the South Windsor Youth Hockey Association, said that people move to South Windsor for two reasons: the schools and the offerings of the parks and recreation department.

Feher has said repeatedly before that the town needed to upgrade its recreation facilities to continue to attract families.

Attorney Kent Mawhinney, who presented the project to the council in October, said that the town was missing out on an opportunity if the hockey rinks are built by a private developer.

Mawhinney said said that the state is in the position it is in because it hasn’t done anything to attract people.

The town, Mawhinney said, needs to do something to “survive” as “tax revenue won’t magically grow on its own.”

That the town did not act on the plan “shows to me a lack of leadership,” he said, noting that he wasn’t concerned about this year’s budget as much as he was worried about what will happen “two years, five years, 10 years” down the line.

“Create a base for tomorrow,” he said.

Mawhinney then castigated the council.

“I’ve never seen people bicker over such nonsense,” he said.

Deputy Mayor Gary Bazzano was equally unmoved by people who said that the town could not afford to be discussing the matter.

“It’s a tough budget year,” Bazzano said. “Every year is a tough budget year. I can’t tell you how sick I am of hearing that it’s a tough budget year. You’ve got to do the right thing for the town. … What have we done to attract people to South Windsor. We need to start making improvements. … We are not wasting time. These are not luxuries. This proposal is a town need. To say that the meeting has been hijacked or a waste of time, I resent that comment from any of you.”

Still, the council did not vote on a resolution telling Galligan how to proceed. Galligan has presented to the council three options for constructing a recreation complex.

The operating cost of the smallest project - the 35,000-square-foot recreation center that Galligan recommends in his report should the council go forward - would be $714,000, according to Galligan’s preliminary pro-formas. The estimated revenue would be $581,000. The end result would be an operating loss of about $133,000. The IRS depreciation and debt service would cost about $380,000 per year.

Bazzano said that a resolution on the matter would likely be ready by the next council meeting.

Correction: the original article stated that Councilor Beaulieu supported the recreation complex, when she in fact said she supported possibly using 63-20 corporations in the future for town projects, which may or may not incude the rec complex. South Windsor Patch regrets the error.

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Steve Phillips May 18, 2013 at 08:55 am
Mr. McCann arrogantly conducts himself on the Town Council and here as if he is above criticism,Read More forgetting (or simply not caring) about the privilege and responsibility serving elected office holds. A privilege and responsibility granted by the very same constituents McCann insults with comments above. Lacking empathy and humility are never traits respected leaders aspire, and sadly what McCann has disrespectfully expressed here.
Susan May 17, 2013 at 06:18 pm
Totally agree with you Mr. Sullivan. There are some who cannot use their real name or only a firstRead More name at fear of being attacked. Being a politician Mr. McCann has no problem speaking out. If you disagree with him you get ripped apart. I have witnessed it first hand by watching the council meetings on TV.
Michael Sullivan May 17, 2013 at 04:00 pm
Some folks choose not to use their real or full names on public bulletin boards and blogs…Read More Welcome to the 21st century Mr. McCann! Indeed the terms of use for Patch say quite clearly: "We encourage, but do not require, that the user name you provide be your real name." Mr. McCann you have chosen to be a public figure and politician. Others who may only wish to participate anonymously on blogs and postings such as these are not required to participate at whatever _you_ may deem to be an acceptable level.
Larry Torff May 17, 2013 at 10:29 pm
If tax, spend, borrow and figure out how to pay for it later is the way to budget for the future,Read More I'll take the old guard, thank you.
Michael Sullivan May 16, 2013 at 01:08 pm
I believe there's a misprint - the title should have been "BORROWING for the future"?
keith yagaloff May 14, 2013 at 06:07 pm
Darren, I've said many times that a small scale fields project could have been approved as early asRead More last summer. There are opportunities to fund the project from within the existing budget. Tom and I both offered to use money from the contingency account to get the planning studies completed. The hockey rink proponents never brought any actual data to the council. The town manager and our financial consultant gathered financial data and notified the council that the project was not viable. A political fight over funding the pension using 7.75% versus 8% as the discount rate was unnecessary. The pension was funded in accordance with the ARC, as town councils have done virtually every year since the pension was in place. Fluctuations due to market conditions far exceed the differences in proposed funding. We have had positive town audits with no indication that the town's financial rating is at risk. The town is financially very healthy.
Darren DeMartino May 14, 2013 at 05:13 pm
Keith I think Buford makes a lot of sense. The large majority of this tax increase was caused by theRead More past council members for years more worried about getting reelected than the current council. This increase was fueled by years of cutting to the bone, pushing things off when they should have been dealt with in a timely fashion. Mayor Delnicki (not Delnickie) who you have praised so much over the past day or so himself warned numerous times that this increase was coming. He stated numerous times on camera and in the press that there would be a day of reckoning in the future due to the cuts we had made over the years and now that it is here no one wants to face it. Now that you and Tom are on the same side it is interesting how much your perspective has changed? It is interesting in your article that you reference how certain councilors have embrace the borrow and spend mentality yet you and your cohorts voted against amendments to fund the pension based upon a more realistic 7.75% discount rate in comparison to 8% as well as an amendment that would have prevented us from taking $800,000 out of found account(savings account) which could negatively impact our future ratings. In regards to the fields you have stated you are in favor of them so if so why not take advantage of low construction costs and historically low interest rates to invest in something that will make our town a more desirable place to live? In regards to the hockey rink why is it that we never even got the facts about what the financial impact would be to the town. We both know it was because somehow egos got in the way of exploring what would be best for our town. Our town is a great place to live but if we continue down this past that wont be the case in a very short time.
keith yagaloff May 14, 2013 at 03:22 pm
Dear Buford, thank you for your comments. You more than adequately describe your views when youRead More write "Unfortunately for you, you live in a 1%er town in a 1%er state." All that my wife and I possess was earned through honest hard work and we take no shame in that. Never once, however, did it cross my mind to use taxpayer money to fund projects for myself and my friends. I feel sorry for other hard working people living in South Windsor who find their tax dollars have been co-opted by elected officials who think they are running Apple or Walmart.
Philip E. Koboski May 15, 2013 at 12:41 pm
Lemiel Odell's comments regarding the sports teams at the high school are both uninformed and unfairRead More to the student athletes on those teams. It's always best to know what you are talking about before posting something online to show that you really don't. First, the swim team. That group of student athletes completed while fully funding themselves for at least two years. Since its inception, there has been no issues with filling roster spots. As for the hockey team, you just need to read the scores in the sports page to see that we are one of the very few schools in the area that is not a "combined team". Other teams in our conference are made up of athletes from two or three schools. The South Windsor High School ice hockey team continues to fill it's roster with students from town. Obviously, there is an interest. While Mr. Odell may support the students option to play, he shoudl at least respect it. His comments about the turf field would be correct if his letter was written in 1974, when Astro-turf was still in use. The new turf fields are far more player-friendly and the last time I heard any complaint about turf-toe was from Fran Tarkenton and his days in Minnesota. The cushion under the turf is now designed to minimize the risk of concussions, and it takes just a small bit of research to see that the major cause of concussions is head-to-head contact. Yes, I said it, HEAD-TO-HEAD CONTACT. While I agree that the town shoudl not have funded a new business in town at the expense of an existing business, it is no secret that South WIndsor needs a new ice arena to replace the one we have now. I have played in that arena, and into the mid-1990's, there was still chicken wire above the boards, not plexi-glass. There was not a player on any team that would ever venture to shower in those locker rooms. They were disgusting, and as a South Windsor resident, I am embarrassed to have players from other towns go into them. Knowing that the 63-20 financing would not be used to finance a new rink in town, Councilor Bazzano still led the effort to educate the citizens in how this financing could work to help with other projects in the town. Sadly, his efforts were undercut by Mayor Delnicki in that meeting with him pushing it towards the incorrect thought that this would go directly to build a new rec center in town. This was a great opportunity to help the folks of South WIndsor understand how this could come into play for other improvements in town, and it was torpedoed byt he mayor and another Councilor who attacked one of the attorneys as he answered questions from the Town Council. That exchange let to Councilor Snyder to call for a point of order in the meeting and both Councilor Bazzano and Councilor McCann to say that the attack was enough. That was an opportunity that was lost, and that is truly a shame.
Darren DeMartino May 13, 2013 at 03:45 pm
The blog above references an $10,000,000 unaffordable hockey rink and that Mayor Delnicki should beRead More praised. Why would we praise him? He did everything he could to squash this project before we even got to see the finances of the project and whether or not it would have been a benefit to South Windsor. He continually references how he is a voice for the taxpayer. I take issue with that statement as there are a number of taxpayers myself included who feel that we need to invest in our town to protect our property values, not defer all expenses for as long as we can. Has he ever met a budget year that he didn't say was going to be terrible? How is borrowing from the fund balance to pay for current expenses a benefit to our town? How is deferring necessary pension contributions going to benefit us, young families who have just moved to town, or more importantly our children that would like to stay in this town when they get older?
Dana May 13, 2013 at 06:31 am
We need council to run the the town more like a business. If you do not invest in that business youRead More go out of business.
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Steve Phillips May 17, 2013 at 10:35 am
Yes, certainly Hank.
Hank Cullinane May 17, 2013 at 07:46 am
so you are saying Soccer mom's and Softball dad's are entrenched special interest groups?
Steve Phillips May 16, 2013 at 05:23 pm
Well Hank, I must say, there does not seem to be a single athletic group that does not send Bazzano,Read More McCann et al hearts aflutter. The result? Million dollar Boondoggles like an ice rink, turf fields and an unnecessary Athletic Complex.